Love and marriage
I don’t remember how I found my way to this article: http://www.glamour.com/features/sexandlove/articles/060501kristin
It really struck a cord with me. Because I was once this wife to a much greater degree than I am now. And I kept thinking of some of my childhood friends. I know alot of women who scurry to pacify their hubbies’ needs. Not just women of past generations with no education but women my age with respectable academic accomplishments.
Years ago, I set up a night out with a good friend to gossip, dine and see a flick. At the last minute she called to cancel. Why? Because she found out her hubby, just hours prior, had just invited a bunch of guys to play poker at their house. She had to make food for them, clean the house, and watch the kids. She added, ‘Well, he HAS been working really hard lately, so I guess he needs some time to relax.” I wanted to slap her. What about YOUR time to relax? You work hard too.
Recently, I invited another childhood friend over to catch up. She never showed. Days later she e-mailed me and told me why. Her hubby was in a parade. He decided to change his costume at the last minute. So who felt compelled to step, fetch, and fix? Her!
I love my oldest and dearest friends but it drives me crazy to watch some of them drop everything for their hubbies — not just once in a while but on a frequent basis. And later, these smart, capable women complain that they feel exhausted and “stepped on.” Well, duh. They are.
I think alot of women want to please because they reason a “good wife” makes her hubby happy. But WHY is it so important to be “a good wife” if you’ve lost your sense of self and continually feel like a doormat? What happens when you realize, like Kristin did, that you don’t even resemble the person you once were — the person your spouse fell in love with? What happens if you realize he’s happy in the marriage but you often aren’t?
Sometimes I feel stepped on. And when I do, my hubby hears all about it. (He does, just ask him.) It would be easier to be a “good wife” — to just smile and nod. There would be less arguments that way. But I know myself. When I do that, I seethe. I get angry at my hubby when I feel taken for granted. And I get even more angry at myself when I realize I’ve let it happen. My anger and frustration come out in other ways. Anger cuts both ways. It hurts everyone.
I don’t have an answer on how to improve any person’s marriage. I can only work on my own. I have no idea how any other woman can reclaim her sense of self. All I know is that its been a work-in-progress for me. But I think Kristin is on to something in this article. And I think its an article I need to save. Because in such a busy world, I need a reminder. (I think alot of women do.) I need to remember to cherish and nurture the “me.”






Jennifer on 16 Jun 2006 at 8:24 pm #
I love Kristen Armstrong. Thanks for posting that article. Glamour is my guilty pleasure… sometimes you just need some mindless reading and pretty pictures.
I”m not married, but I’ve been with my boyfriend for 4 years next month. I’ve always had a top-secret, old-fashioned pen-and-paper journal, and I don’t know how I would have made it through some times without it. Looking back at it (and the 4 or 5 filled ones I have from the past) really help to remember who I was, what I wanted, how I’ve changed, and whether the changes are good or bad. Even looking back at things I wrote just a year or less, it’s funny to see what seemed so important at the time. Either I think, “I can’t believe I thought that was such a big deal, I really need to chill out”, or “I was upset about this way back then, and it still makes me mad, I’ve got to do something about it” — and only time can make me able to tell the difference between the two.
Unfortunately, I only tend to write in it when I’m really happy or really pissed off, but even those entries give a good idea of what life was like at that moment. And now… there are blogs (OK, I know I jumped on the bandwagon a little late)! It’s such a great outlet for putting your thoughts down on paper (ie, the internet). Although the old fashioned diary is still a staple for things I don’t exactly want the internet (or even my best friend) to know about.
Nice post
Motherhood Uncensored on 16 Jun 2006 at 11:20 pm #
Of all the things I think about, being ” the good wife” isn’t one of them. However, I do feel guilty when I don’t make him lunch or dinner (or any meal, for that matter). So, there is some part of me that feels that I’m a slacker.
I’m learning my abilities and my limitations.
Great post.
Mary Tsao on 16 Jun 2006 at 11:29 pm #
Thanks for the link; I’ll have to check out that article.
I’m definitely all for putting myself first. (At least in theory!) I do believe that it’s easier to care for others when you care for yourself. And I agree that it’s important to let your husband know when you think things are tilting in an unfair direction. I seethe, too, and that’s just not fun for anybody because eventually, the monster comes out!
I’m constantly working on myself in this regard, trying to ask for more help around the house, say, before I blow up and start yelling about stuff on the floor or whatever. I have to remember that what’s obvious to me might not be obvious to him.
Mrs. Chicky on 17 Jun 2006 at 12:03 am #
It chafes my ass when one of my friends does that. If it was for a child, that would be one thing. But for a grown man? I think thats worth getting angry about. I’ve been convinced of this for years, a woman needs to have her “me time”. If she doesn’t she might just take it out on someone else one day.
Nap Queen on 17 Jun 2006 at 1:51 am #
Thank you so much for linking to that article. I chose not to change my name, not to combine bank accounts, and I have a standing movie night with my sister because I wanted to retain some independence. I guess part of it is that I’m the breadwinner. Who knows what it would be like if the tables were turned and I stayed home? I’d like to think I wouldn’t change, but you never really know until you’re in the situation.
Red on 17 Jun 2006 at 4:02 am #
I had a friend like that. They are Baptists though, and they pretty much believe that if hubby’s happy, then you have no reason not to be. Her husband is a real ass too. One time I invited her to dinner and she wouldn’t go because her husband wouldn’t have dinner… I was like, “He can’t make a friggin’ sandwich for one night??”
She’s terribly unhappy as well. It may seem awful, but I got so tired of hearing about how terrible things were and her lack of desire to ever do anything about it that I quit having a lot to do with her because anytime I made a comment about how she should stick up for her own well-being she’d get pissed at me.. I figure if her prozac does the trick in making her happy then far be it from me to interfere!
Michelle on 17 Jun 2006 at 4:10 am #
This has hit such a sore spot with me tonight. I am sitting here crying knowing that I just left the living room because I didn’t want to argue with my husband about how he treats me like his own personal cook/maid/caretaker. I started to voice my opinion and then nothing was going to change, so I gave up.
I had a friend over today- a single friend with no kids or a serious relationship- she commented over coffee later tonight (my first time in 7 and a half months when I have left my husband with my son for more than 30 minutes) that my husband really isn’t part of my family. He just sits back and lets me take care of everything. I am not really sure where to go from here because I do love my husband with all of my heart. But I do know that despite the several times that I have talked to him about this, nothing has ever changed.
Any advice? I don’t want to blog about this- but I would love some feedback
Cheesegirl on 17 Jun 2006 at 4:52 am #
Great article. When I first got married, we were exhausted by making the rounds to both sets of parents every weekend. I felt we had to do everything together. Fortunately, we came to an agreement for separate mini vacations with girl/guy friends every year! It made us appreciate our spouse and reconnect with ourselves. I also found out that my hubby cannot always read my mind so I let him know when I need help or time to myself. Shocking, I know but I find that it avoids fights & tears (mine, not his)!
melissa on 17 Jun 2006 at 5:57 am #
Thank you for this article. I left a marriage partly because this was expected of me and I couldn’t do it. In short, it’s a harsh form of abuse. I understand the plight of women raised to be this way, but I don’t understand at the same time. I was definitely raised to be this way (by example, not religion), but I am no one’s servant.
Spider63 on 17 Jun 2006 at 1:03 pm #
A certain amount of “personal time” is good. However if you are enjoying time with your friends so much because it makes you miss each other that sounds like a lot of water is going under that bridge. When people are in love nothing seems like a chore. It works both ways of course.
Dawn on 17 Jun 2006 at 11:12 pm #
Well, I am planning for my divorce in 3 to 4 years, so I may not be the best person to ask at the moment….
Tonya on 18 Jun 2006 at 3:22 am #
I haven’t read the article you linked to yet, but I understand what you’re saying. I feel very caught in the middle. My dad is a Southern Baptist minister (and I will be Southern Baptist until I die), and we are all taught to submit, respect, etc. I have the hardest, HARDEST time waiting on The Hubster. Actually, I usually don’t unless I give him lots of attitude first. I never, ever want to be taken for granted or feel like a maid or a doormat!
carrie on 18 Jun 2006 at 3:32 am #
What an excellent post with some very relevant ?’s brought up. Why do some women drop everything, and give up their own plans/selves? I am totally guilty of this.
Carrie
Kirsten on 18 Jun 2006 at 9:02 pm #
A friend emailed me this article when it came out and I thought it was so well put. I think all women getting married should read it. Luckily I’m too much of a pain in the ass to lose too much of myself. There are days though and this article is a good reminder of how important it is to not forget that I’m just as important as the other members of my family.
Mom101 on 19 Jun 2006 at 2:57 am #
This is a wonderful topic, although I haven’t read the article yet. I think what it comes down to is that being a good spouse works both ways. I have no problem with women doing for the guy who “had a tough week,” as long as he’s doing for her when she’s in the same situation.
Mega Mom on 19 Jun 2006 at 11:38 am #
I love doing nice things for my husband, but I still wear the pants
Pattie on 19 Jun 2006 at 11:47 am #
I saw Kristin Armstrong on TV talking about that article. It resonated with me, too. By the time I had my third child, I had lost myself trying to please everyone but myself. I will say, I made bad choices because of it. I learned the hard way that when you try to please everyone, you wind up pleasing no one. My husband taught me that.
Thanks for this post. It’s a good reminder that more women need to take care of themselves better than they do.
Stephanie A. on 19 Jun 2006 at 10:21 pm #
It took me some time to get to that article and then back here, but I wanted to say- you really make some excellent points, as does that article.
I’m pretty progressive and into feminism and such things, so I never found myself getting lost when I was just married. But now that I have a kid? Fuck, I never even make it out with my friends and things have happened in my marriage that I NEVER thought would happen. Even after telling a close friend about some of these things she said, “Wow, and I told all my friends here in Morocco about how great your relationship is and how balanced it is. When I fought with my husband I even told him how you two handle things so well.” And then I said, “Yeah, well, that was before I had a kid.” Right now I’m going through a really strange time trying to stay myself while developing that mom/wife role. And for some reason, I’m super-duper bugged when my husband asks me to do things for him that I consider mom-ish (like keep his crap in my purse).
OK, so obviously this post struck a chord which is why I keep rambling. I’ll. stop. now.
Kristin on 19 Jun 2006 at 10:27 pm #
i try very hard to be a good wife, but the easiest way for that to happen is for me to fist be good to myself. i am always shocked by women who say things like, “well, if my husband will LET me…”
marriage is an organic creature, you both feed the beast!
Lori on 19 Jun 2006 at 11:49 pm #
Huh. Interesting article. Fortunately I don’t have that problem. If anything, the pendulum swings a bit too far in the other direction for us; I am fiercely independent and don’t mother him at all. Sometimes I feel guilty for not being more nurturing. But the guilt never lasts for long.
I guess I just have a hard time relating to women like that, you know? Though I knew a few women like that. They are no longer in my life, because I couldn’t bear to stand by and watch them wither.
Great post!
The Flip Flop Mamma! on 20 Jun 2006 at 4:25 am #
I haven’t read the article yet. I read a friend bloggers post once about how even if your hubby isn’t holding up his part of the marriage, you should hold up yours. She going at this from a christian womans perspective. Now, my hub is pastor. He is also human. and so am I. I can’t hold up my end, if he’s not holding up his. And like you, I tell him about it! I can’t sit around and be a doormat, taking care of the house, the kids, the appointments, the animals, everything! So, he has to hold up his end. I’m not his mamma. Ok, I’m gonna read the article now.
Christina_the_wench on 20 Jun 2006 at 12:20 pm #
Pastor’s wife here too. If you have a good husband, you can still be you and do your own thang and be a blessing to him as well. It took me YEARS of trying to be too independent. I was really miserable. I guess I am pretty lucky this second time around marriage-wise.
Becky on 20 Jun 2006 at 3:26 pm #
totally agreed. i will admit sometimes i do drop things to help matt out with something. but i lucked out that he’s understanding that i need my time too. and he’s totally ok with that. youre right. if you dont have time for yourself how are you the same person you were when your hubby fell in love with you??? just like jenn says and i say the same thing–i’m not just hannah’s mom, or matts wife, or morgans best friend, or a secretary. i’m ALL these things. they all make ME.
Heidi on 21 Jun 2006 at 5:32 pm #
Such a great post, Lisa.
I’ve always worked very hard to maintain time for myself. But, there are circumstances where everyone has to make sacrifices. That’s what it’s been like around here the last couple of weeks. And I don’t mind if it’s for a finite amount of time, but when it gets to be an expectation, I get pissed.
A and I each have an evenining during the week that is supposed to be “ours.” It’s nice, because it’s scheduled.
However, while I am well aware that my husband is a capable human being who deals with multi-million dollar lawsuits and can easily handle the needs of a toddler, he seems to think that taking care of L so that I can have some time means that he still gets to yell up the stairs to see if I can do him some favor or another, because he “needs me to throw down some jammies for him.”
Does he think there’s a fairy who runs up and down the stairs for me all day when I forget something?
Do it YOURSELF, buddy.
He’s slowly figured out that having time to myself makes life easier for everyone in the family - nobody has to die that way.
consise10 on 22 Jun 2006 at 8:08 am #
I adore the time i have with my children.They are the only thing in life which bring me back to a safe’reality away from the harshness of my thoughts.
Thanks for the link to that article Lisa.
Virginia Belle on 28 Jun 2006 at 3:37 pm #
i am so screwed. i already do this. and i’m not even engaged to the guy.
i just get a lot of satisfaction from being supportive, helpful and needed. i like feeling like the shelter from the storm. my mom was like this, but even she was better at having “me” time than i am.
but…i do have moments where i just need him to go away. or do it himself. and i’m practicing on listening to my inner voice. and telling him to go home or not come over. it’s hard, but i’m getting better. hopefully i can keep this article in mind. thanks for sharing it.
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